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WENDL Kornfeld's avatar

I am far less likely to jump to un-informed judgements about people now. I want to believe that most people do the best they can with what they have. Never has Hillel's admonition of 'not doing to others what is hateful to you' felt more relevant and correct.

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Don Akchin's avatar

And if not now, when?

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Leslie Fuquinay Miller's avatar

I'm interested in this research. My non-scientific feeling is that we become stronger versions of ourselves as we age. The ornery become ornery-er. But it is, perhaps, our diminished bucket of fucks that allows us to be kinder, or at least non-combative, toward those who irritate us.

Still, my fuckbucket has refilled itself during this administration, and I'm not feeling very charitable to those in the cult. I doubt that will change.

Good piece.

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Don Akchin's avatar

Leslie, I have to agree. I cannot find it in my heart to give the benefit of the doubt to those who are deliberately destroying democracy and polluting every value we stand for.

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Agerico Montecillo De Villa's avatar

Actually, there is a mathematical basis for altruism. Has to do with the work of Peter Kropotkin and, much later after him, Claude Shannon. I discuss the matter here. This is the link involved, https://www.pinoytoolbox.org/post/darwin-kropotkin-shannon-geeky-world-of-politics. At the moment, I have no time to get it published in an academic journal but academics here in the Philippines are presently aware of my theory.

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Don Akchin's avatar

Thanks for adding this surprising angle to the discussion.

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Agerico Montecillo De Villa's avatar

Just in case you are interested, here is another piece.

“Altruism Wins: “Good Wins Over Evil” Tenet”

https://www.pinoytoolbox.org/post/altruism-wins-good-wins-over-evil-tenet

Good evening from the Philippines.

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Don Akchin's avatar

Math and I are not on friendly terms, but I have to say this is fascinating. Thanks for sharing.

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Kylie's avatar

The Meanest people I know are my parents and their peers- all on the Theo mid to late 70s

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Susie Kaufman's avatar

I think the capacity for compassion grows with self-awareness. When we realize that our own time is limited and may be characterized by some health struggles, some losses...we're more likely to recognize other people's challenges.

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Don Akchin's avatar

Susie, true only for those who succumb to the "character flaw" of empathy.

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Charles Rammelkamp's avatar

Too bad Trump hasn't mellowed with age. Cruelty for its own sake seems to be his M.O.

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Don Akchin's avatar

It only happens to 75% of us. We know where Trump falls.

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Avivah Wittenberg-Cox's avatar

What happens to the other 25% and is there any research on the difference?

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Don Akchin's avatar

Haven't seen the science on that one.

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Judith Posner's avatar

absolutely resonates and dead fascinating.

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Don Akchin's avatar

Thanks, Judith!

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Wayne Christensen's avatar

Nicely done, Mr. Don.

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Don Akchin's avatar

Thank you, my friend.

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Kathleen Murphy's avatar

Brain chemistry and less time working, to be sure, but also just plain old experience that kindness is stronger than hate. Or at least we know when to keep the old pie-hole zipped!

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Don Akchin's avatar

Kathleen, that is so true!

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Ermira Pirdeni's avatar

I think that life experience gives you a deeper meaning to life, you understand that what we accumulate over the years in material wealth or status, in attempts to find happiness, only fulfills our ego, while the feeling of love is essential to fulfilling our soul.

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Stella Fosse's avatar

Older altruism is an important phenomenon to track, and thanks for this! Another factor, at least for women, is explained by the Grandmother Hypothesis. Women, unlike other female primates, live well past menopause because our role as caretakers of grandchildren (with their lengthy period of dependency) was essential to the success of our species. Caring for grandkids requires devotion and altruism. More about that here: https://open.substack.com/pub/stellafosse/p/the-grandmother-hypothesis?r=yq3s3&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

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Judith Posner's avatar

WOW. what a great addition to Don's essay!

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Don Akchin's avatar

Stella, thanks for making the connection the the Grandmother Hypothesis. Makes perfect sense.

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Jan Peppler's avatar

Interesting!

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